NASCAR luminary Kurt Busch recently shared his journey through grief with CNN anchor Anderson Cooper on the podcast "All There Is," a platform dedicated to exploring themes of loss. In a deeply emotional interview, Busch recounted the profound impact of his younger brother Kyle’s untimely death at the age of 41 earlier this year. The conversation, spanning nearly 30 minutes, delved into the complexities of sibling rivalry, the unexpected nature of loss, and the ongoing process of healing.
Busch, the elder brother by over six years, described a lifelong dynamic where Kyle mirrored his aspirations. "Everything I did, he wanted to do, just as good (and) at the same time," Kurt recalled, highlighting Kyle’s relentless drive and competitive spirit that propelled him to become NASCAR’s winningest driver in national series history.
The early stages of their careers were marked by a unique blend of familial support and professional rivalry. Kurt embarked on his full-time Cup Series season in 2001, with Kyle following suit four years later. Kurt acknowledged his role in paving the way for his brother’s entry into the sport. "I did what I could everywhere I went to leave a bridge open and a road paved for him to go through," he stated.
However, the path was not without its friction. Kurt recounted instances where Kyle, as the younger sibling, faced the brunt of fan disapproval due to Kurt’s own controversial moments early in his career. "Man, my first-ever NASCAR race, they booed me because of you," Kyle had told Kurt. This early animosity, fueled by fan perception, forged a complex dynamic. Kurt observed that Kyle, possessing a fiery personality of his own, often adopted a more aggressive and outspoken persona than his older brother. "He took the black hat and rolled with it," Kurt remarked. He specifically recalled an infamous clash between them at the 2007 All-Star Race, an incident that led to a period of estrangement until their grandmother intervened, facilitating a reconciliation for Thanksgiving.
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The evolution of their relationship also involved Kurt confronting the reality that Kyle would likely surpass his own considerable achievements. "That was tough," Kurt admitted. "I had to grow up and go, you know what, you helped him but you’re not as fast as him." Despite Kurt’s own Hall of Fame-worthy statistics, Kyle’s unparalleled success presented a unique challenge for him to process.
Amidst the competitive fire, moments of profound connection punctuated their shared journey. Cooper played a clip of Kurt’s victory at Richmond in 2012, a win achieved while driving for his brother’s NASCAR O’Reilly team. The footage captured the brothers celebrating together in Victory Lane, a sight that visibly moved Kurt to tears. "You feel all that joy, right?" Kurt said, his voice trembling. "And then I turn to see you and I’m like damn, yeah, he’s gone. I keep trying to go back to those memories of good when people ask me about things or want to talk. That was one of our biggest highlights together."
The recent period has been a tumultuous emotional landscape for Kurt, marked by the highs of his NASCAR Hall of Fame induction in January, which was somberly juxtaposed with tragedies within the NASCAR community. "I’m just very thankful that we had the ride that we did," he reflected. "For me, this year — these highs of the Hall of Fame induction, the lows of my brother and I mean, last year in December, I lost a good friend Greg Biffle and his family in a plane crash."
Busch detailed his proactive approach to managing his grief, embracing therapy a few years prior, which has provided him with tools to navigate this profound loss. While attending races can be a source of comfort, he admitted that it can also be overwhelming at times. "I’m trying to grieve in ways to help people, like my mom, my dad, and Samantha (Kyle’s wife), our crew guys, Kyle’s crew that’s around," he explained. "I try to do it where I’m not biting off more than I can chew and back off a little bit."
He finds solace in activities that evoke memories, such as racing vintage IROC cars. "And when you race your old cars, you have all those old memories of what that car drove like and what it felt like. And so it gives me that release. But then just trying to help everyone get through this and share stories, it’s not going to get any easier, but time will help you."
Busch emphasized the importance of shared experiences in the healing process. "Different conversations help, therapy, going to the track and people giving you a hug. Some people want to talk and some people just give you that soulfull feeling of condolences without saying anything… It helps, but can’t go too much. Too much exposure to it is like being out in the sun, you get sunburned. I had that happen a couple of times. And now I’ve learned, okay, that’s enough, I need to go home. It’s just so vivid at the track because of everyone has a No. 8 or a No. 18."
The impact of Kyle’s legacy is palpable, with reminders appearing in unexpected places, from a Cubs game to chance encounters with fans. A poignant moment occurred at the Coca-Cola 600, NASCAR’s longest race, held shortly after Kyle’s passing. The Busch family participated in an emotional pre-race tribute. Kurt confessed his initial reluctance to attend, finding the reality of the situation difficult to accept. "I didn’t want to go," he admitted. "I didn’t want to go the track. It didn’t feel real. I’m glad we went. I needed to be there for my mom and dad, and Samantha, Brex, and Lennix. I was thankful for that moment with NASCAR." He described the overwhelming support from fellow drivers as he processed the shock and disbelief.
Regarding the tragic circumstances of Kyle’s death, Kurt shed light on the suddenness of the event. He revealed he was unaware of any serious illness. "I didn’t know that Kyle was sick," he stated. He had heard Kyle had received a medical injection at Watkins Glen two weeks prior, a procedure Kurt himself had undergone for sinus issues. "It was most likely a sinus shot of some sort, but I didn’t know he was sick." Reports from those close to Kyle indicated only minor symptoms like a cough. Kyle had won a Truck Series race at Dover the Friday before his passing and was scheduled to open a go-kart track with his son, Brexton, the day before he fell ill.
The chain of events leading to Kyle’s death unfolded rapidly. On Wednesday, the day he passed, Kyle was engaged in his usual simulator session at Joe Gibbs Racing. After finishing around 5 p.m., he went to the bathroom and began coughing. His crew chief, described by Kurt as a confidant akin to a spouse at the track, found Kyle sitting on the bathroom floor, leaning against the wall. When asked if he needed an ambulance, Kyle, who was known for his stoicism, agreed. This rare admission of distress signaled the severity of his condition. He was transported to the hospital, where his condition was initially stabilized. Kurt learned of the situation at 4 a.m. the following morning when his father called his girlfriend’s phone. He rushed to the hospital, witnessing the rapid and unfathomable deterioration of Kyle’s health within a 12-hour period. "Like inside of a horror movie, it wasn’t like we lost time. It wasn’t like we didn’t have good care. It’s just one in a million, and it’s like, no, no."
Kurt lamented that Kyle "didn’t deserve this," referencing the numerous future plans Kyle had meticulously laid out. These included competing at the highest level of NASCAR for several more years, aiming to achieve the unprecedented feat of winning championships in all three national series, and ultimately racing against his son, Brexton, once he reached the minimum age requirement.
Busch finds his strongest connection to Kyle when he is behind the wheel of a race car. Despite his own racing career being cut short by a concussion sustained in 2022, he has recently participated in vintage IROC races. "I actually got in the car a half-an-hour before our practice session, just to sit there and have a little chat with myself and have a little prayer with him," Kurt revealed. "It’s when I’m getting in the car, I just check in."
He cherishes the evolution of their brotherhood, from the vast chasm of their teenage years to the palpable closeness in their 40s. "I love how we went through these phases, even on the race track. The sibling rivalry was real, then helping each other with sponsorships and the key things to make us stronger that we didn’t tell other racers, and then racing on the track. It’s like we were the same mindset and the same thought process on where to make passes, how we drafted with each other — I just loved our synergy on the race track and the evolution we went through… The biggest thing I miss is just that banter, and the unspoken words when we would race each other."
Kurt recounted a particularly poignant moment in the closing laps of his final NASCAR Cup Series victory at Kansas in 2022. As Kyle was battling Kyle Larson for the win, he found himself unable to make a clean pass. When Kurt moved into contention for second place, Kyle deliberately lifted off the throttle down the backstretch, yielding the position to his brother and giving him an opportunity to challenge Larson. Kurt went on to win the race, his last in the Cup Series, driving for the 23XI Racing team co-owned by Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin. "I called him afterwards, I said thank you. He goes, ‘I know, I know.’ Those are the things I miss the most. And that’s my last NASCAR win, he helped me win it."
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